What are your guys running in the 1/4 mile times

[Saturn_Rocket_124]

what is your best 1/4 mile time

[Patrick_97SC2]

The best time I've had is a 16.3 @ 83 mph. The only mods at the time were a intake and throttle body. I haven't been since my exahust and header have been put on so I'm thinking I'll be in the mid 15's now.

[eRic 02sc2]

my best run was 15.7 @ 88 mph

[LowSL2]

My best time is a 16.515 @ 82.631 MPH at about 2300 feet above sea level. This is with numerous mods, no stereo, drag radials, raised rear end, partially gutted, and a slipping clutch.

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Jeff Silva
President, Cronus Motorsports Car Club - http://www.cronusmotorsports.com
Owner, 1993 Saturn SL2m "Low SL2" - http://www.lowsl2.com
Owner, 1991 Saturn SL2t "Turbo SL2" - http://www.turbosl2.com
AIM: Low SL2

[Space-Boy '97SL2m]

My best time was this past Friday. It was the first time I have raced at a track, I must say it was a blast!!! I made five runs and the best one was 16.12 at 83.27 mph with a stock 97 SL2m:)

[toeachitsown]

pretty weak

[piratepress]

Just about all the SC2's tested in Car and Driver (from 1993-2001) have run a 16.4 @ 84mph. So that is a good baseline for a stock twin-cam Saturn.

[Marshall]

13.0@107.4 in my TTZ last year, now I have the trap speed up to 108.6

New injectors and turbos being put on soon, should run low 11's, high 10's.

Haven't run the Saturn yet, don't really intend to either. It's peppy, but modding two cars would get pretty damn expensive. Although my SL2 does have a neat intake noise at WOT, and an intake, headers, and exhaust would make it sound even cooler... nah, I gotta stop thinking about it!

[Bryan 93 ?]

Originally posted by toeachitsown
pretty weak

Now there is an intelligent response, my tsi runs a 12.7 on pump gas, no idea what my saturn runs.

[SCDYNE]

I left my 17" Focal F5's on all 4 corners and ran with a passenger on every run (extra 165lbs). I have average bolt on mods on a *stock* engine and our S/C with a 6 psi pulley.

I ran up against:
Sentra V spec and beat him with a 16 flat.
Mustang GT and beat him with a 15.4.
Newer Camaro SS and beat him with a 14.5.
Impreza WRX and beat him with a slower 14.9.
I ran against a bunch of other imports and beat them all with high 15's and low 16's.

I only ran hard enough to win each race and I'm honestly too afraid to push it too hard without more time on the dyno.

I weighed the car in at just under 2475lbs with 1/4 tank of gas and no one else in it. With my buddy and myself that's another 315 lbs for a total of 2790lbs.
I figure that's about 180 HP at the wheels never going over 6000 RPMs so that's not bad. I don't think I have ever even hit a full 6 psi of boost yet.

The dyno's opened 'till 10 PM tonight so I 'may' run it.. ah, no hurry...

This is the highest I have ever seen it go and the software doesn't read anything above 1 bar so it's no good.
http://www.mysaturn.com/dynos/boost5.jpg


** I say stock, but it's a '99 crank and rods, '95 p/p head, '91 pistons and '96 block and cam cover.

[LowSC2]

13.9 @ 101 mph in our 1991 SL2 race car

Here are the mods:

1993 Saturn DOHC (LL0)
Hotshot Chrome Powerstack intake
OEM Saturn Header, open
SAP bored and polished throttle body
Accel 300+ Thundersport 8mm spark plug cables
Accel Super-DIS Ignition Coils
AC Delco spark plugs, 2 steps colder
Boers Performance Engineering Underdrive Pulley's
Solid Torque Reaction Engine Mounts
1993 manual transmission
Fidanza lightweight flywheel
OEM Clutch
Nitrous Express single fogger wet nitrous setup at 50hp

Here's video of the runs: http://www.cronusmotorsports.com/movies/

16.5 @ 86 mph in my 2001 SC2m SE

Here are the mods:

Hotshot Chrome Powerstack intake
2.25" crush bent cat-back exhaust
Flowmaster Delta-flow two chamber muffler
17" ALT Type 180 chrome wheels

Jeff Silva
www.cronusmotorsports.com

[toeachitsown]

meng i'm talkin about the 16.5 low sl2 ran with several mods...shouldnt it run that stock...or does sea level affect your speedsomehow....i thought the higher you go ...the lighter you go

[OhioVueBoy]

I am curious as to what the 0-60 and 1/4 times are for a 5 speed EcoTec powered VUE... any ideas?
~D.J.~

[Plastic Gravity]

Originally posted by piratepress
Just about all the SC2's tested in Car and Driver (from 1993-2001) have run a 16.4 @ 84mph. So that is a good baseline for a stock twin-cam Saturn.

The first gen SC's (G1) 91-96 are considerably quicker than the G2 and G3 cars. The G3s in particular have gained a lot of poundage, and lost the go fast goodies the early cars had.

The 92's were probably the fastest of the breed. I remember consistent sub 8's to 60, and 15.6 1/4mile times. C&D's 95 SC2 ran a 7.6 dash to 60 and the 1/4 in something like 15.7 @89 mph. Not bad for only 124hp.

Its too bad Saturn gave up on making the SC a serious sport coupe after 96, the underpinnings were always there. Instead they went into "chickcar" overdrive. I've seen somethings pointing to an "SC3" for 1997 that would have used a high performance version of the 1.9Motor...the rear bumper of the 97's even have cutouts for dual exhuast, IIRC. My guess is GM pissed all over this idea.

[SaturnSdn]

2000 SW2 auto w/48 state emissions

Mods
Removed muffler replaced with straight pipe
SPS airstack
Short 195/50X15 tires on the front

Best run
16.956@79.97

2001 SL2 5-speed w/California emissions
SPS airstack
Short 195/50X15 tires on the front

16.289@82.89 if I remember right

These numbers come from Firebird Raceway. Guys that run both Firebird and Speedworld run faster at speedworld by almost a half a second. Point being every track is different so don't compiar some published numbers to what someone else ran at some track on any given day. No track can compair to another. So if someones numbers are slow instead of saying he's slow, Go race him at his track some day/night.

http://www.saturnperformance.com/profiles/view.asp?id=SW2
http://www.saturnperformance.com/profiles/view.asp?id=SL2

[OhioVueBoy]

How much will having the 50 state low emissions slow my VUE down? The Martin Group (owners of Saturn of Dayton-both stores) puts it on every car automatically.
~D.J.~

[Anthony99SC2]

The higher you go, the thinner air gets. When you are higher, you go slower because for every stroke cycle of the engine, you get less air (unless you compensate by, say, turning up the boost on the turbo). In N/A cars, you will go slower at higher altitudes due to the Horsepower decrease because of the less dense air.

[SaturnSdn]

Saturn puts it on every VEU. The dealer as nothing to do with it. All Saturns now have 50 state emissions. Talk to saturn at www.Saturn.Com While your there sign into the Saturn owner area and register your VIEW.

[OhioVueBoy]

I just registered... they haven't had my VIN on file until today. We delivered 2 V6 AWD VUEs Saturday, and I would swear they did not have 50 state emissions. Oh well.
~D.J.~

[SleeperSC2]

The higher you go, the thinner air gets. When you are higher, you go slower because for every stroke cycle of the engine, you get less air (unless you compensate by, say, turning up the boost on the turbo). In N/A cars, you will go slower at higher altitudes due to the Horsepower decrease because of the less dense air.

That said, I live right around 5000 feet. I got alot of grief from some of you over my 17.6s @ 82 MPH quarter mile times. My 144,000 mile SC2 was more than enough for a 2000 Tiburon with its 140 HP 2.0 liter engine, performance airbox, and "highflow muffler".

At this elevation, I'll be hard pressed to get my Saturn to run low to mid-14s in the quarter without turbocharging/supercharging or nitrous on limited funds. But when I pull up to the line, whoever is next to me is subject to the same environmental variables I am.

Todd

[Terrandus]

Although altitude plays a role in how a car runs.. I thought the computer systems in modern cars adapted fairly well to different altitudes after being there for awhile... (a day or two). But or course, I may be wrong. Would not be a first.

[banjo]

the computer will adjust so that you don't detonate but without denser air you can't make the same amount of power

Bill

[SleeperSC2]

The computer does adapt--to a point. We drove our 94 Regal GS to Vegas a couple of years ago. Vegas is at around 3000 feet (I think) and it ran alot better. But a computer can't bump up compression or cylinder pressures to compensate for thinner air.

If you get a chance, watch coverage of the NHRA Mile High Nationals from Denver at the end of July. I'll bet they'll have a segment on the differences between a top fuel engine built for closer to sea-level elevations and one built specifically for running at 5000 feet in Denver. Piston domes are taller and allow for a bump in compression. Otherwise these engines lose about 1000 horsepower due to less oxygen content in the thinner air. Even then, compression isn't enough and the blowers on these engines are probably overdriven as much as the rules allow. National records for E.T. will never be broken at this track because of the thin air.

Just more support of my results.

Todd