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02 Dawg
07-20-2009, 12:25 PM
I removed my 02 Vue AWD driveshaft to repair the center support bearing and this what it looked like after I removed it.
Also a GREAT Thanks to Mr. Far2Grumpy for your help. :usa:

xtremeranger
07-20-2009, 09:34 PM
WOW!:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

1saxman
07-20-2009, 10:22 PM
What's the point of the pictures?

02 Dawg
07-21-2009, 09:07 AM
What's the point of the pictures?
I was trying to show the damage that can be caused by this faulty bearing.
The driveshaft company I brought this to does about six of these a week for local car dealers.
I guess the point is check your center support bearing, because when they start to deteriorate it doesn't take long for this to happen!

far2grumpy
07-21-2009, 10:42 AM
I was trying to show the damage that can be caused by this faulty bearing.
The driveshaft company I brought this to does about six of these a week for local car dealers.
I guess the point is check your center support bearing, because when they start to deteriorate it doesn't take long for this to happen!

02 Dawg ... it is almost unbelievable the vehicle was still drivable with the bearing essentially missing. I'm also wondering if you had trouble finding a replacement bearing ... I've heard they are in short supply.

I imagine the little truck is quiet as a mouse when you cruise now!!

Tom92SCm
07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
WOW! Maybe the original design was an "air bearing".

1saxman
07-21-2009, 12:58 PM
For the sake of those of us who are not very intimate with their carrier bearings/driveshafts, it would have been nice if you had mentioned that the bearing was gone (it looked like the bearing could have been inside the rubber boot, and the empty ring was just the support). I thought maybe it was the rust or the leaking lube... couldn't see what the problem was. I bet that made some noise!

ssicarman
07-21-2009, 08:26 PM
Everything is still there on the driveshaft. The support bracket has seperated from the rubber isolator.

far2grumpy
07-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Everything is still there on the driveshaft. The support bracket has seperated from the rubber isolator.

IMO the drive-shaft remnants depicted in above photos share little resemblance to hardware detailed in following thread - post # 12 ... the carrier bearing is item 8:

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1352846&highlight=propeller+shaft#post1352846

ssicarman
07-21-2009, 10:23 PM
IMO the drive-shaft remnants depicted in above photos share little resemblance to hardware detailed in following thread - post # 12 ... the carrier bearing is item 8:

http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1352846&highlight=propeller+shaft#post1352846

Other than being broken the pictures here are the same as the parts diagram. #8 is the bearing with the rubber and the bracket. #8 is pressed onto #9

1saxman
07-21-2009, 10:40 PM
Grumpy; on the thread you linked, I got a kick out of reading what the poor sap thought was causing his driveshaft problem; 'I wonder if the premature failure has something to do with the fact that
the drive shaft spins faster on the Honda powered Vue.'

Yeah, all that extra horsepower sure spins that driveshaft faster at the same road speed, you betcha!

Actually, I believe the Honda drive train runs at lower RPM in high gear for equivalent road speed. The early VUE is 62 MPH at 2000 RPM.

far2grumpy
07-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Other than being broken the pictures here are the same as the parts diagram. #8 is the bearing with the rubber and the bracket. #8 is pressed onto #9

I know you're thinking I should know what I'm seeing but I don't.

What sort of bearing material is used ... I'd expect ball-bearings or roller bearings but all I see is what appears to the outer race. Isn't there something missing?

I've never held one of these things in my hand but I'm baffled about the lack of something I recognize as a bearing.

Is the grayish / whitish material visible in the photos the inner race ... and if so ... are the bearings still retained inside?

ssicarman
07-21-2009, 11:01 PM
The bearing is in the middle of the rubber. you can't see it in the pictures in this thread and the diagram doesn't really show it. You can see the inner race that gets pressed onto the shaft when you have the parts in your hands. The out race is in the rubber bonded to it. I have never had the bearing out and aprt to look at it so I don't know if it is ball bearing or roller bearing.

cbre
08-28-2009, 09:34 AM
Does anyone have a picture of a new center bearing assemble?

3RedLines
08-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Not a new support, but here is a picture of the assembly with the bearing out:
http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/51739/ppuser/61561
It's not bonded to the rubber but held in place by a metal ring.