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rayzur9
11-16-2007, 12:39 PM
Im hoping that my 3.0L V6 L81 AWD doesnt have the VTI trans. But I am not sure since Ive read seemingly conflicting posts on the aforementioned.
Someone please clarify for me?
Thank you very much!!!
:p
Gerry Proctor
11-16-2007, 12:47 PM
The L81 V6 3.0 used in '02 and '03 Vues for double-damn sure does NOT have the VTi transmission. It uses an Aisin automatic.
rayzur9
11-16-2007, 12:52 PM
:DDamn, Had to be Texan so cordial and quick to respond..
Chazberry
11-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Story I heard was that they had to use the VTi with the 2.2L because that 4 cyl. was too long to squeeze a conventional automatic in there. Apparently a very big mistake.
twosaturns
11-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Story I heard was that they had to use the VTi with the 2.2L because that 4 cyl. was too long to squeeze a conventional automatic in there. Apparently a very big mistake.

sounds like an urban legend- GM never has a shortage of drivetrain options. and the ecotec is HARDLY too long. saturn just wanted to offer something in that segment that no one else had.
john95SW2
11-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Agreed - if GM didn't have something on the shelf they'd buy it from someone else....plus, there's a ton of room under there with the ecotec under the hood. First car I've had in a long time where I could look under the hood and see the ground through the engine compartment.
spencerb
11-16-2007, 03:06 PM
Story I heard was that they had to use the VTi with the 2.2L because that 4 cyl. was too long to squeeze a conventional automatic in there. Apparently a very big mistake.They replaced the VTi with a conventional 4-speed auto. It wasn't a major engineering feat.

If the VTi didn't have quality issues, it would have been a good move for Saturn. It has real benefits and would give visibility to Saturn as a technology leader.

The VTi was phased out in the VUE around 04-05. I think only a handful of 05s had it, and only in AWD. Of course it was only mated with the 4cyl.
Chazberry
11-16-2007, 03:44 PM
If the VTi didn't have quality issues, it would have been a good move for Saturn. It has real benefits and would give visibility to Saturn as a technology leader.


Big "IF"! Unfortunately GM's great engineering gave Saturn just the kind of visibility it didn't need. Interesting that other companies have successfully implemented a CVT. GM has made some pretty big missteps trying to be a technology pioneer.